I'm excited to share this special episode of The Generalist featuring Alan Kay and Anjan Katta—one I've been anticipating for quite some time. Why the Real Computer Revolution Never Happened In this conversation, I'm joined by two extraordinary guests: Alan Kay, a pioneer of modern computing, and @AnjanKatta, founder of @daylightco, who's reimagining the personal computer for our AI age. We explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping our relationship with computers, whether current paradigms serve us well as AI becomes ubiquitous, and what new models of human-computer interaction we need to thrive alongside intelligent machines. This is a conversation about reclaiming agency in an age of algorithms and imagining computing tools that amplify human intelligence rather than replace it. Listen now: • YouTube: • Spotify: • Apple: A big thank you to the incredible sponsors that make the podcast possible: ✨ Augment Code — AI coding assistant that pro engineering teams love: ✨ Brex — The banking solution for startups: ✨ Generalist+ — Essential intelligence for modern investors and technologists: We explore: → Why Alan believes the "computer revolution" commercialized in the wrong direction, missing the deeper humanistic vision of early computing pioneers → How the structure of information, from pagination to platforms, shapes the way we think → How Daylight is creating a reading and writing-focused device that helps access our "prefrontal cortex" rather than our "lizard brain" → The concept of a magical medium, and how computing might help us become our best selves → Why Marshall McLuhan's media theories predicted our current technological predicament decades before it happened → The critical difference between intelligence and wisdom in computing systems, and why wisdom should be our focus → How thoughtful constraints in computing design can lead to better thinking and more meaningful interaction → The urgency of developing systems thinking in a world facing complex challenges …And much more!