My full conversation with @spencer, founder of @Ocapgames & new CEO of @moonbirds. The first ever upload of Max Abstraction. Enjoy! Chapters: 00:00 – Intro & Spencer joins Max Abstraction 06:45 – Spencer’s Web3 & gaming background 17:08 – Vibes: early challenges & lessons 27:14 – Crypto vs traditional gamer culture 34:08 – Korea’s impact on crypto & NFTs 39:04 – Sneak peek: Legend of the Littles 42:42 – Vibes’ evolving art & quality focus 46:27 – Breaking silhouette fatigue 50:51 – Art integrity & QC obsession 56:34 – How the Moonbirds deal happened 57:32 – Why OCG bought Moonbirds, not SV 58:53 – Mythics art: the hidden gem 01:01:49 – Moonbirds vs Mythics 01:02:41 – Market reacts to the acquisition 01:04:30 – Why Moonbirds needed new hands 01:06:18 – Vibes proves what OCG can do 01:07:42 – Set 3 is already in motion 01:09:13 – Doing it right vs fast 01:10:44 – Product-first mindset 01:12:15 – The future of Moonbirds

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